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Four Lessons Every Pastor Needs to Lead High-Capacity Generosity
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Join a trusted cohort of pastors learning how to disciple high-capacity people in your church — without intimidation, manipulation, or awkwardness.
35+ Years of Ministry · Hundreds of High-Capacity Conversations · Proven in Local-Church Advancement
The Problem
Most churches disciple people well. Few have a practical strategy for discipling the people carrying extraordinary influence.
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The weight they carry on Monday is rarely shepherded on Sunday. Talking to Titans exists to close that gap.
“I Wasn’t Trained for This.”
For years, Andrew was more comfortable challenging a college student to tithe than sitting across from a CEO and discussing a transformational gift. Then God began opening those doors.
“What works—and what doesn’t—when pastors talk to you about generosity?”
Hundreds of conversations later, the answer became clear: the challenge was not primarily fundraising. It was pastoring. High-capacity people still wrestle with fear, family, purpose, pressure, loneliness, legacy, and the question of what God wants them to do with everything entrusted to them.
Those conversations became Talking to Titans—four lessons that help pastors lead with authenticity, spiritual confidence, and courage.
The Defining Philosophy
High-capacity people don’t need another person impressed by what they own. They need pastors willing to help them understand what God wants to do through everything they have been entrusted with.
Your job is not to be impressed by their success. Your job is to help them steward it.
Paul did not tell Timothy to avoid wealthy people. He told Timothy to pastor them—toward hope in God, generosity, good deeds, and life that is truly life.
What Is a Titan?
A Titan is not simply someone with money. The common denominator is extraordinary capacity—and the pastoral question is never merely how much they can give.
“What has God entrusted to them—and what Kingdom opportunity might He be preparing them for?”
The Four Lessons
Build trust, shepherd the soul, connect generosity to divine purpose, and make a clear invitation without compromising the relationship.
See the person before you see the capacity. Never turn a person into a prospect.
Don’t be intimidated by the room. Their expertise does not diminish your spiritual calling.
Guard your motive. Connect resources to Kingdom purpose rather than organizational pressure.
Have the courage to ask. Clarity is kindness, and big vision deserves clear numbers.
Pastor the person. Steward the relationship. Raise the vision. Make the invitation.
The Talking to Titans Flywheel
Relationship
Trust
Pastoring
Purpose
Vision
Invitation
Generosity
Kingdom Impact
Deeper Relationship

From Success to Significance
Legacy. Children. Grandchildren. Eternal impact. The pastors who understand these questions can help leaders move from accumulating resources toward deploying them for Kingdom significance.
People do not want to be valued for their wealth. They want to know their wealth can have value.
The Three-Person Challenge
Think of three high-capacity people God has already placed in your life. Begin with curiosity, prayer, and presence.
Free Conversation Guide
Enter the conversation trying to understand their calling—not determine their capacity.
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Half-day training, full-day intensives, retreats, campaign preparation, and generosity strategy.
Train My Team →Core Beliefs
Successful people need pastors too.
Extraordinary capacity creates extraordinary stewardship responsibility.
Pastors should never be intimidated by someone’s net worth.
People should be loved for who they are, not what they can give.
Relationship comes before resource.
Motive matters. Vision matters. Clarity is kindness.
A no should never destroy a relationship.
Generosity is discipleship.
God has already placed extraordinary Kingdom resources inside His Church.

About Andrew
Founder, Talking to Titans · Pastor of Advancement, Wellspring Church
Andrew has spent more than three decades helping pastors pastor business leaders well. His ministry has spanned 70 countries and all 50 states — including years with Life.Church and leadership through more than seventy church mergers.
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Years of Ministry
70
Countries Served
50
U.S. States
70+
Church Mergers Led
“My mission is simple: helping pastors pastor business leaders well.”Read the full story

The Pastor Cohort
Not networking
Not coaching
Not another mastermind
A cohort for pastors who want to disciple the high-capacity people in their churches with confidence. Monthly roundtables, an annual gathering, daily formation, and a trusted peer community — all built around the four lessons every pastor needs.
Join the Pastor CohortDesigned for Pastors
Most pastors have been trained to preach, counsel, and lead — but few have been trained to sit across from a high-capacity person and pastor them well. This cohort closes that gap.
“You don't need another program. You need a trusted place to learn, practice, and grow alongside other pastors.”
The Pastor Cohort is for pastors who want to disciple the Titans in their church with confidence, clarity, and courage.
What Pastors Gain
Cohort Rhythm
The cohort meets you where you are and keeps you moving. Annual gathering, monthly roundtables, daily formation — built for a pastor's real schedule.
Three transformational days of teaching, worship, and brotherhood — a reset for the soul and the calendar.

Live, candid discussions with peers who carry the same weight and share the same faith.

Formation delivered through the mobile app. Small deposits. Lifetime impact.


The Conversation That Changes Everything
Every church has men and women quietly carrying extraordinary influence. They build companies. They create jobs. They steward remarkable resources. They don't need to be admired from a distance. They need to be discipled. They need brotherhood. They need spiritual formation. They need pastors.
When pastors and marketplace leaders walk together, churches become stronger, communities flourish, and the Gospel advances. What begins as Talking to Titans ultimately becomes something much larger.
Building Kingdom Builders.
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